Prevention of Future Deaths reports · 2025

William Grieve

Regulation 28 report to prevent future deaths, reference 2025-0154, written 19 Mar 2025. A coroner writes one of these when an inquest reveals a risk that could cause further deaths unless something changes.

Date of report19 Mar 2025
Reference2025-0154
DeceasedWilliam Grieve
CoronerEmma Serrano
Coroner areaStaffordshire
CategorySuicide (from 2015)
Organisation namedMidlands Partnership University NHS Foundation Trust
Sourcejudiciary.uk record · original PDF
Responses published2

The report

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REGULATION 28:  REPORT TO PREVENT FUTURE DEATHS

REGULATION 28 REPORT TO PREVENT FUTURE DEATHS

THIS REPORT IS BEING SENT TO:

1.  Stoke Talking Therapies

2.  Crisis Resolution Team

3.  Midlands Partnership Foundation Trust

1

CORONER

I am Emma Serrano, Area Coroner, for the coroner area of Staffordshire.

2

CORONER’S LEGAL POWERS

I make this report under paragraph 7, Schedule 5, of the Coroners and Justice Act
2009 and regulations 28 and 29 of the Coroners (Investigations) Regulations 2013.

3

INVESTIGATION and INQUEST

On the 28th August 2024, I commenced an investigation into the death of Mr William
Anthony Grieve.  The investigation concluded at the end of the inquest on 17 March
2024. The conclusion of the inquest was a short for conclusion of suicide.

The cause of death was:

1a  Hanging

4

CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATH

i)  Mr  Grieve  was  found  deceased,  on  the  20  August  2024,  at  his  home

address 

.

5

CORONER’S CONCERNS

During the course of the inquest the evidence revealed matters giving rise to concern.
In my opinion there is a risk that future deaths will occur unless action is taken. In the
circumstances it is my statutory duty to report to you.

The MATTERS OF CONCERN are as follows.  –

1.  Evidence  emerged  during  the  inquest  that  Mr  Grieve  was  under  the  care  of
Stoke Talking Therapies, and had also presented at the Stoke crisis Evolution
Team. Both had conducted suicide risk assessments of Mr Grieve.

2. Both  assessments,  were incorrect, and  took  account of  incorrect  information
because  neither  team  had  access  to  the  others  computer  system.    Stoke
Talking  Therapies  used  IAPTUS  and  Crisis  resolution  used  Lorenzo.   There
was no way for either team to see the others electronic notes.

3.  It was said in evidence, that a member of staff had not carried out a risk
assessment properly whoever, nothing had been done to address this

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 and there were no plans to address this.  The concern being that staff
training needs are not being addressed.

6

ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN

In my opinion action should be taken to prevent future deaths and I believe you have
the power to take such action.

7

YOUR RESPONSE

You are under a duty to respond to this report within 56 days of the date of this report,
namely by 7 May 2025.

Your response must contain details of action taken or proposed to be taken, setting out
the timetable for action. Otherwise you must explain why no action is proposed.

8

COPIES and PUBLICATION

I  have sent  a  copy  of  my  report  to  the  Chief  Coroner and to  the  following Interested
Persons;

1.  The family of William Grieve.

I am also under a duty to send the Chief Coroner a copy of your response.

The Chief Coroner may publish either or both in a complete or redacted or summary
form. He may send a copy of this report to any person who he believes may find it useful
or of interest. You may make representations to me, the coroner, at the time of your
response, about the release or the publication of your response by the Chief Coroner.

9

19 March 2025

Miss Emma Serrano
Area Coroner
Staffordshire

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Responses

2 responses published against this report on judiciary.uk. A response is a body's written reply to the coroner's concerns; publication is at the discretion of the Chief Coroner's office, so an absent response does not mean nobody replied.

Response from Midlands Partnership University NHS Foundation Trust (PDF)
Trust Headquarters 
St George's Hospital  
Corporation Street 
Stafford ST16 3SR 

www.mpft.nhs.uk 

Miss Emma Serrano 
Area Coroner for Staffordshire 

By email: 

6 June 2025 

Dear Ma’am, 

Regulation 28 Report into the death of Mr William Anthony Grieve 

Midlands Partnership NHS Foundation Trust (“MPFT”) acknowledges receipt of the Regulation 
28 Report to Prevent Future Deaths following the inquest into the tragic death of Mr Grieve. On 
behalf of MPFT I would first like to offer my sincere condolences to Mr Grieve’s friends and family 

for their tragic loss. 

MPFT provides the following response to the Regulation 28 Report.  

It is important to note at the outset that MPFT were not notified of Coroner’s investigation had no 
input into the inquest process, and, were not present at the final court hearing, as such, were not 
privy to any of the evidence which led to your concerns. This response is provided in absence of 
any knowledge of the evidence. Further, this response will only refer to matters which are directly 
under MPFT’s knowledge and control. 

MPFT take a collaborative approach with other colleagues and have met with representatives at 
North Staffordshire Combined Healthcare Trust (“NSCHT”) in relation to your concerns raised in 
your Regulation 28 report. MPFT are committed to continuing this collaborative approach and 
always take any concerns and issues with care seriously and are dedicated to continually 
improving patient safety and learning. 

Talking Therapies- MPFT 

MPFT holds the contract for Talking Therapies in Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent, and sub-
contracts to other partners. There are 7 different organisations who sub-contract from MPFT, 
NSCHT are one such provider. NSCHT provide the Talking Therapies services in Stoke, who I 
understand provided treatment to Mr Grieve. 

NSCHT are responsible for the provision and performance of this service and are responsible for 
oversight of mandatory training of all staff working in the Stoke locality team. However, if MPFT 

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 make a change to the whole contract in terms of the expectations regarding staff training MPFT 
would take responsibility for delivering that training. 

MPFT oversee the provision of the service by monthly national reporting, which is collated by the 
MPFT Business Intelligence Team and by quarterly reporting by partner organizations into the 
NHS Talking Therapies Governance Board, chaired by the MPFT Director of Operations and 
attended by commissioners/the ICB. 

MPFT would expect any concerns held by any of the sub-contractors to be raised in line with the 
contract. Where concerns are with MPFT Clinical Director and Deputy Clinical Director would 
work closely with managers in the Stoke locality to assist them in rectify any issues. 

Electronic Record Keeping Systems 

Talking Therapies use the IAPTUS electronic record system. This is a nationally recognised 
bespoke clinical record system used by Talking Therapies services nationwide and is one of only 
two systems which are nationally recommended for use in this context. The system LORENZO is 
the electronic record system used by secondary care and Crisis staff in North Staffordshire and 
Stoke on Trent. Rio is the electronic record system used by secondary care and Crisis staff in 
South Staffordshire   

Secondary care providers do not have access to the IAPTUS system. There are important, 
considered, reasons for this. 

1.  Talking Therapies in Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent treat a large number of NHS staff 

for therapy. They have been consented that their notes will remain confidential from other 
NHS services unless there are issues of risk or safeguarding, to assure them that their 
colleagues will not be able to view those psychological therapy notes. To open this 
access to IAPTUS and other NHS Staff poses a risks of breaches of confidentiality and a 
risk that staff will no longer come forward to access the service. 

2.  All patients have been consented on the basis that only their direct care team will have 

access to their notes. As around 30,000- 40,000 patient records are created annually on 
the system, it would be impossible to re-consent those people historically if access to the 
system was to change.  

3.  Staff supervision notes, which are notes which document oversight and input from a 

supervisor and any guidance provided to ensure the quality of the service provided and 
to ensure that staff receive the necessary support and feedback to perform their roles 
effectively, are held on IAPTUS.  They are held separately to patient records. There is no 
way of restricting access to these notes to other users. 

4. 

If access were to be widened (which due to points 1,2 and 3 above is currently not 
something we are considering) additional user accounts would need to be created.  

5. 

If access were given to NSCHT staff, equivalent access would need to be offered to all 
partners organisations on the contract making the system unwieldy. Very complex Data 
Protection Impact Assessments would be required regarding information sharing due to 
the complexities of the number of partner organisations working on the contract and the 
information all of them would be able to view.  

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 6.  Nationally, it is not usual practice that secondary care staff have access to the Talking 
Therapies record system for the clinical and cost reasons outlined above. If urgent or 
serious risk presents in Talking Therapies services, it is standard and expected practice 
that these risks should be escalated to secondary care within the system immediately as 
per Talking Therapies national guidance, due to there being no medical staff in the team 
to advise on this.  

7.  There is no block within the IAPTUS system to enable users to access only parts of the 
notes – if access is grated the entire record, plus supervision notes, will be viewable.  

Risk Assessments 

As a service, Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent Talking Therapies introduced a new process of 
assessing and documenting risk which came into force on 1 May 2025.  

This is in response to the new national guidance regarding the removal of risk stratification from 
risk assessment and notes. The process has been undertaken by all Talking Therapies Services 
led by MPFT and for Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent, this has been led by the MPFT employed 
Clinical Director and senior clinicians in the service employed by MPFT and NSCHT, under the 
supervision of the MPFT Associate Director of Safety, Risk and Compliance and MPFT Director 
of Psychological Services.   

All staff working in the service received training on the new processes in April 2025. The training 
comprised of a live training session which was recorded for staff who were absent to watch at their 
earliest  opportunity.  A  resource  pack  was  also  provided  to  all  staff  outlining  in  writing  the  new 
processes and requirements for assessing risk and writing this in notes.  

Following implementation, a robust auditing process will be taking place monthly from July 2025 
to ensure compliance and address any further staff training needs. 

Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact 
Legal.services@mpft.nhs.uk. 

Yours Sincerely, 

Chief Executive  

Midlands Partnership NHS University NHS Foundation Trust  

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Response from North Staffordshire Combined Healthcare NHS Trust (PDF)
Date:   6th June 2025 

Reference: 

Emma Serrano, Area Coroner  
Stoke-on-Trent & North Staffordshire Coroner  
Stoke on Trent and North Staffordshire  
Stoke Town Hall,  
Kingsway,  
Stoke-on-Trent,  
ST4 1HH  

Email: 

Dear Miss Serrano 

Chief Medical Officer   
Trust Headquarters 
Lawton House 
Bellringer Road 
Trentham 
ST4 8HH 

Regulation 28 Report – Prevent Future Deaths – William Anthony Grieve  

During the course of the inquest for William Anthony Grieve which concluded on 17th March 2025, 
the evidence revealed matters giving rise to concern. In my opinion there is a risk that future deaths 
will occur unless action is taken. In the circumstances it is my statutory duty to report to you. 

The MATTERS OF CONCERN are as follows: 

(1) 

(2) 

(3) 

Evidence emerged during the inquest that Mr Grieve was under the care of Stoke Talking 
Therapies, and had also presented at the Stoke Crisis Resolution Evolution Team. Both had 
conducted suicide risk assessments of Mr Grieve.   
Both assessments, were incorrect, and took account of incorrect information because neither 
team  had  access  to the others  computer  system.   Stoke Talking  Therapies used IAPTUS 
and Crisis  resolution used  Lorenzo.    There was  no  way for  either  team to see  the  others 
electronic notes.  
It was said in evidence, that a member of staff had not carried out a risk assessment properly 
whoever, nothing had been done to address this and there were no plans to address this.  
The concern being that staff training needs are not being addressed.  

Trust responses to Matters of Concern Above (see appendix 1 for Action Plan) 

(1)  We agree with this statement.  

A patient at any given time can have touch points/points of entry with different mental health 
services dependent upon their clinical need at that time. Each clinical team will undertake a 
clinical assessment in that moment including risk assessment in order to formulate how best 
to support those needs.  More than one risk assessment could be open at any given time 
when patients are accessing different services.   

Chair: 

Chief Executive: 

www.combined.nhs.uk 
Follow us on Twitter: @CombinedNHS  
Follow us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/NorthStaffsCombined  

             
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
                                            
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
 It is important that services are accessible and responsive to changeable and different needs 
at any time, it is quite often the case that people can be open to several services at the same 
time. 

(2) 

Nationally IAPTUS are not set up to share their electronic patient records as the provider of 
this system has outlined below the reasons for this:   

Secondary care providers do not have access to the IAPTUS system. There are important, 
considered, reasons for this. 
i. 

Talking  Therapies  in  Staffordshire  and  Stoke  on  Trent  treat  a  large  number  of  NHS 
staff for therapy. They have been consented that their notes will remain confidential 
from  other  NHS  services  unless  there  are  issues  of  risk  or  safeguarding,  to  assure 
them that their colleagues will not be able to view those psychological therapy notes. 
To  open  this  access  to  IAPTUS  and  other  NHS  Staff  poses  a  risks  of  breaches  of 
confidentiality and a risk that staff will no longer come forward to access the service. 

ii. 

iii. 

iv. 

v. 

vi. 

All patients have been consented on the basis that only their direct care team will have 
access to their notes. As around 30,000- 40,000 patient records are created annually 
on the system, it would be impossible to re-consent those people historically if access 
to the system was to change.  

Staff supervision notes, which are notes which document oversight and input from a 
supervisor and any guidance provided to ensure the quality of the service provided and 
to ensure that staff receive the necessary support and feedback to perform their roles 
effectively, are held on IAPTUS.  They are held separately to patient records. There is 
no way of restricting access to these notes to other users. 

If  access  were  to  be  widened (which  due  to  points  1,2 and  3 above  is  currently  not 
something  we  are  considering)  additional  user  accounts  would  need  to  be  created.  

If access were given to NSCHT staff, equivalent access would need to be offered to all 
partners organisations on the contract making the system unwieldy. Very complex Data 
Protection Impact Assessments would be required regarding information sharing due 
to the complexities of the number of partner organisations working on the contract and 
the information all of them would be able to view. 

Nationally, it is not usual practice that secondary care staff have access to the Talking 
Therapies record system for the clinical and cost reasons outlined above. If urgent or 
serious risk presents in Talking Therapies services, it is standard and expected practice 
that these risks should be escalated to secondary care within the system immediately 
as per Talking Therapies national guidance, due to there being no medical staff in the 
team to advise on this. 

Chair: 

Chief Executive: 

www.combined.nhs.uk 
Follow us on Twitter: @CombinedNHS  
Follow us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/NorthStaffsCombined  

             
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 vii. 

There is no block within the IAPTUS system to enable users to  access only parts of 
the  notes  –  if  access  is  grated  the  entire  record,  plus  supervision  notes,  will  be 
viewable. 

An  Integrated  Care  Record  (ICR)  –  already  exists  and  NSCHT,  MPFT,  UHNM  and  GP 
services each extracts an agreed dataset of information to this ICR system and NSCHT aim 
to take forward discussions with MPFT to do the same from IAPTUS electronic patient record 
to mitigate some of the system issues raised. 

(3) 

This  evidence  was  in  relation  to  a  member  of  staff  within  the  Crisis  Resolution  Home 
Treatment Team (CRHTT), not Talking Therapies.   
Upon further review, risk assessments were completed for Mr Grieve.  Early organisational 
learning has led to a review of the standard operational procedure for service users who do 
not  attend  appointments  the  principles  of  this  being  adopted  immediately  whilst  awaiting 
Trust governance approval processes.    

Please see attached action plan below.  Do not hesitate to contact me should you need any further 
information. 

Yours sincerely 

Consultant Psychiatrist 
Chief Medical Director  

Chair: 

Chief Executive:   

www.combined.nhs.uk 
Follow us on Twitter: @CombinedNHS  
Follow us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/NorthStaffsCombined  

             
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Action Plan                                                                                              Appendix 1  
No 
1. 

Area of Concern 
Both 
were 
assessments, 
incorrect,  and  took  account  of 
incorrect 
information  because 
neither  team  had  access  to  the 
others  computer  system.    Stoke 
Talking  Therapies used IAPTUS 
and  Crisis 
resolution  used 
Lorenzo.   There  was no  way for 
either  team  to  see  the  others 
electronic notes.  

team 
talking 

Identified Action 
NSCHT  will  initiate  discussions  with 
MPFT  Information  Governance  Team 
regarding 
and  Digital 
the 
therapies  data 
inclusion  of 
within the integrated care record. This 
will include a discussion regarding the 
proposed dataset  of  information  to  be 
integrated  Care 
extracted 
Record.  

the 

to 

Lead 

Completion date 
31st July 2025 

Assurance 

Ongoing  

2. 

the 

Assurance in the interim NSCHT plan 
to:  
o  Protocol  agreed  –  IAPT  (now 
Talking  Therapy  Services)  check 
Lorenzo  when  new  referrals  are 
received  –  this  is  done  once.  At 
Assessment 
first 
and 
treatment appointment the patient 
is  asked  if  they  are  involved  in 
services.   Note:  there  are  issues 
sometimes 
person 
with 
remembering  who 
they  are 
involved with.   

o  Crisis  Resolution  and  Home 
Treatment Team (CRHTT)/IAPT – 
have  in place  a process  –  ask at 
every  contact  (not  every  contact-
beginning of treatment, during and 
towards the end) if they are open 
to any other services, which works 
as follows:  
IAPT (now Talking Therapies) - At 
initial assessment we ask if patient 
is  or  has  accessed  other  mental 
health  services,  we  are  adding 
some  narrative  to  this  to  advise 

o 

 
 
 
 patient  to  make  us  aware  that  if 
this occurs between appointments 
then  they  need  to  let  us  know. 
Risk and safety plan is reviewed at 
each appointment and should pick 
up  any  changes  to  risk  and  the 
initial risk assessment. 

if 

o  CRHTT every patient is asked on 
each  occasion 
they  are 
accessing  other  mental  health 
services.  

o  CRHTT – If the person is open to 
Talking  Therapies,  CRHTT  will 
inform  Talking  Therapies  of  this 
through 
the 
appropriate  Talking  Therapies 
team email address and consider 
this 
the 
assessment and review of risks. 

information 

during 

email 

o  Onus is still on the clinician to find 
regarding 

out 
current access to services. 

information 

the 

an 

to 

Chair: 

Chief Executive:   

www.combined.nhs.uk 
Follow us on Twitter: @CombinedNHS  
Follow us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/NorthStaffsCombined  

             
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 It  was  said  in  evidence,  that  a 
member  of  staff  had  not  carried 
out  a  risk  assessment  properly 
whoever, nothing had been done 
to address this and there were no 
plans 
  The 
concern  being  that  staff  training 
needs are not being addressed. 

to  address 

this. 

1. 

2. 

This  was  not  done  as  a  response  to 
receiving  this  PFD  –  this  work  was 
already  planned  in  line  with  national 
guidance and MPFT/Talking Therapies 
have 
risk 
assessment  process  which  was 
launched on 01/05/2025 – all staff have 
been  either  offered  training,  attended 
or watch a video.   

introduced 

new 

a 

the  Management 

Early organisational learning from this 
incident  has  led  to  a  review  of  the 
standard operational procedure (SOP) 
for 
of  Non-
‘did  not 
attendance  (DNA  means 
attend’  and  WNB  means  ‘were  not 
brought’)  and 
Ineffective  Contacts 
within the Crisis Resolution and Home 
Treatment  Team  (CRHTT)  has  been 
developed by NSCHT and is currently 
the  Trust’s 
proceeding 
through 
governance channels. 

Completed.  

31st July 2025  

Chair: 

Chief Executive: 

www.combined.nhs.uk 
Follow us on Twitter: @CombinedNHS  
Follow us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/NorthStaffsCombined

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